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The Gut/Brain Connection and How They Are Tied Together

Coffee With Dr. Stewart Season 2 - Episode 3
Podcast Episode Show Date: September 15, 2015

Listen in as Dr. Kendal Stewart explains the amazing connection between our stomach health and brain health. We also discuss how neurotransmitters affect the bowel, how to maintain a healthy gut flora and good brain health, choosing the right nutrition to support both, as well as how the immune system affects the nervous system.

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Kara Stewart-Mullens: Neurobiologix proudly presents season two of Coffee with Dr. Stewart. This show will provide our listeners with up to date medical information from a leading neurotologist and neuro-immune specialist. With Dr. Stewart’s broad medical knowledge, we will discuss how he helps his patients with issues such as ADD, migraines, hormones, sleep, fatigue, methylation, autism, genetic mutations, and nutritional protocols. I am your host Kara Stewart-Mullens and I invite you to sit back, grab your favorite beverage or cup of coffee and let’s have Coffee with Dr. Stewart. Well good afternoon everybody and welcome to Coffee with Dr. Stewart. I’m your host Kara Stewart-Mullens. I am here with Dr. Kendal Stewart, the star of the show I like to say. Hey Dr. Stewart.

Dr. Stewart: Hi Kara. How are you today?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I’m good. How are you doing?

Dr. Stewart: Good.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: How’s your weekend going so far?

Dr. Stewart: It’s okay, yeah.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh that sounds so exciting.

Dr. Stewart: Well, you know (laughing). Four kids.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: (laughing) Back to school, yeah, busy, busy, busy. Me, too.

Dr. Stewart: Four kids running everywhere.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Well I’m going to go ahead and cut to the chase today because we have a lot to talk about.

Dr. Stewart: Okay.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Now when I gave Dr. Stewart this topic, we’re going to talk about the gut, brain connection. It is a topic that a lot of medical shows, a lot of articles out there are written about, but Dr. Stewart does this day in and day out in his practice. He has severe cases all the way from the autism spectrum to just the average individual that’s just having some stomach problems. It’s interesting that a lot of stomach problems come with a lot of neurological issues or maybe emotional issues.

Dr. Stewart: Yeah. What you got to remember is that when you deal with a biochemical or biomedical aspects of what we see in patients who get into trouble is that God actually uses a whole lot of different nutrients for different sources.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So always remember that the nervous system and the immune system are tied and that’s why we talk about neuro-immune syndromes and so the gut, in its uniqueness, tends to function on its own without the help of the body meaning it’s an autonomic type of processes.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. I mean it’s interesting to find the fact that the gut is the only organ system that can perform its functions without the oversight of the brain.

Dr. Stewart: Yeah and so just imagine that, guess what, when I fall asleep or let’s say I get put in a coma, I still have to have nutrition so the gut has an ability to work on its own.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And your bodily functions still happen?

Dr. Stewart: Correct.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Alright well let me give one quick fact because I want to just start the show off with that and we jumped right into it.

Dr. Stewart: Sure.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So researchers are finding evidence that irritation in the gastrointestinal system, which we’re just going to call the gut today to make it easier, may send signals to the central nervous system, which you are an expert in, and that triggers mood changes, anxiety, depression…

Dr. Stewart: Oh sure.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And affect the brain and it may hold the key to better brain health.

Dr. Stewart: Well, what I would say to that is; “no duh”.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Meaning who feels good with a bad bowel function, whether you’re talking about inflammation or not. Now inflammation anywhere can send signals to the brain to cause other alterations. So it’s not like it’s a specialized type of process. Now the biggest issue we have is a big immunological presence around the gut because if you think about it, where is the most likely place for contamination in the body with microbial and infectious organisms?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: The gut.

Dr. Stewart: Right. So the gut would make sense.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: They love to live in there, correct, good or bad?

Dr. Stewart: They have to live in there anyway good or bad. Also, we’re swallowing foods, we’re creating a funny environment, we have to get nutrition out of this microbial rich environment. About 70 percent of our immune system tends to surround the gut to protect our body.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. I always find that interesting when you mention that at lectures and workshops.

Dr. Stewart: The whole idea is that it makes perfect sense when you think about it. Where is the most likely contamination going to come from? It’s not going to be a scratch on your skin. It’s going to be in your bowel.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah, and you say it’s huge.

Dr. Stewart: Sure it’s huge. The bowel, you know, stretches out, if you stretch it out, I’ve heard many figures, but the one I like the most is that basically if you stretch it all out, it’s going to cover the size of a tennis court.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I like the fact Dr. Stewart is an autism specialist along with many other things. I worked in your clinic many years ago and these kids that were non-verbal that you knew their stomach hurt them, they’re pushing up against, hard objects to try and get some relief and stuff…

Dr. Stewart: Sure.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And when you start to treat them and you start working on them, it’s amazing how they blossom like neurologically and personality-wise. How is that connection?

Dr. Stewart: Well the biggest problem is that everybody…let’s say a gut researcher likes to tell you the gut affects everything. The brain researcher likes to tell you the brain affects everything. When you talk about it from a biochemical biomedical aspect, simple, genetic alterations, biochemical inefficiencies affect a lot of things.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Including the gut and the brain. So the gut works on neurotransmitters, immune function, and basically…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: They say gene expression?

Dr. Stewart: Correct and so the brain works on the same concept meaning the brain has to have neurotransmitters and has to work properly and problems with an immunological weakness can cause viruses and other things to affect the way the nervous system sends. So basically to me, instead of saying one affects the other, the other affects the other, its just a situation where the body doesn’t feel well. They both get affected equally.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay well I do have to ask you this question because it’s in a lot of literature out there.

Dr. Stewart: Sure.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So they say, and you’re a nervous systems specialist…

Dr. Stewart: Sure.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: There are actually two nervous systems. We have the central nervous system, and then one they call the enteric nervous system or the ENS which is in the bowel.

Dr. Stewart: Right.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay what is that? I had never heard of that before.

Dr. Stewart: Well let’s just basically say that you have a system with built into the bowel that actually can work in isolation from the brain.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh.

Dr. Stewart: So it just means that there’s a group of nerves that work automatically without the brain’s need to direct them.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. See you learn something new every day.

Dr. Stewart: You know, very simple stuff, but basically, you know…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Not really simple.

Dr. Stewart: Well…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: To you maybe (laughing).

Dr. Stewart: So the thing is, that both of those nervous systems, whether you want to talk about them separately, they both work on neurotransmitters and the primary neurotransmitters are dopamine and serotonin. Now…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah they say 70 percent of serotonin is in your bowel.

Dr. Stewart: Yeah.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And serotonin is part of our happiness?

Dr. Stewart: Right. Now serotonin is needed…it’s not about amounts, specific places, its where is it needed and what does it do? Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So basically the serotonin in the brain is just as important as the serotonin in the bowel, it’s just that there’s more quantity needed in the bowel. So don’t think about it as a quantity thing, think about it as a balance thing. We have to have balance of serotonin and dopamine. Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. So when you’re looking at these kids or you’re looking at adults that are having these issues with IBS, functional bowel problems like its constipation, diarrhea, bloating, pain, stomach upset, where do you start? Do you start with the bowel or…

Dr. Stewart: Well if you back up as biochemistry, you look at what helps all of those systems? Well methylation which is methyltetrahydrofolate…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Is used in the production of serotonin, dopamine…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Dopamine…

Dr. Stewart: Immune health, you see where I’m going here…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: And so instead of thinking about it in isolation, you want to back up and go to the source. So all of these kids have methylation problems. Now we also now know that these kids have mitochondria weakness as a general rule or most people have that. Now we only have recently learned that genetically that there is mild weakness in the mitochondria. So it takes energy and it takes precursors or specific nutrients to make the immune system and the neurotransmitters of the nervous system, of both places, work properly.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay so you have all these people that go okay, well, you know, he gave me maybe recommended something for neurotransmitter support. How is that going to help my bowel and then I have to take probiotics and then I have to take this…

Dr. Stewart: Right.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And this and this and it gets a little confusing.

Dr. Stewart: Right. Sure it does.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So is the neurotransmitter product like Full Focus or…is that going to, in turn, support the bowel or is…

Dr. Stewart: Absolutely.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay because of the neurotransmitter production and dopamine…

Dr. Stewart: Right. Everybody is trying to make it so complicated. It really is not as complicated as everybody would like to make it. You basically want to have enough gasoline, enough oil in your car to make it run right. Am I right?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: You never get into trouble and that’s kind of the concept of biochemistry.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: We want to have enough methyl folate, methyl B12, we want to have enough neurotransmitters produced. We want to have healthy immune cells, we want everything to work right, right?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: The problem is biomedically, and in many of these people who see me, they get into trouble with not creating enough methyl folate, enough health in their immune system to keep the stability of both the bowel and also the nervous system intact.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. So the immune system is basically the correlation between the two?

Dr. Stewart: Right. Because that’s what’s responsible…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Because the immune system supports the nervous system, but the immune system also supports the bowel?

Dr. Stewart: Right. So everybody wants to talk about all these in isolation. God built a well-oiled machine.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yep. I always like when you say that.

Dr. Stewart: And it’s designed to work together. It’s just the way it is. Now, what’s really cool about the gut is that good bacteria produce beta-glucans and…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: That was one of my questions…

Dr. Stewart: And specific sugars and we now know the bowel produces specific sugars to attract good bacteria and some people produce them and some people don’t and so there’s a whole lot of other interesting biochemical messaging types of processes going on meaning the bowel actually contributes a lot more to the gut than what we thought. We thought basically the gut was a conduit and whatever happened in the bowel kind of just transformed through it and we sucked out nutrients. It turns out it’s a much more complex system.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. Because the second part of the show we’re going to get into treatment…

Dr. Stewart: Sure.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And suggestions for nutraceuticals and things but I do have one question that has come out in a lot of articles. GI conditions can be seen as mental illness of the gut.

Dr. Stewart: Oh whatever (laughing).

Kara Stewart-Mullens: (laughing) I was incorrect. They said 95 percent of serotonin can be found in the gut. Now I mean these are on, you know, good websites…

Dr. Stewart: That’s oversimplified.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Web MDs and…

Dr. Stewart: That’s oversimplifying the, mental illness in the brain or the gut is about imbalance. It’s not about insufficiency in one or the other, it’s about the balance of all the neurotransmitters…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: But do you find in people with depression and anxiety and some of those kind of conditions have bowel issues?

Dr. Stewart: We’re talking about the same thing. You’re just talking about it a different way.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. Because I’m not a doctor.

Dr. Stewart: Those are bowel people talking about brain things that they don’t really understand.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Do you understand?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: Whereas if you’re a biochemist or a molecular biologist, you step back and say, “How are these two systems related?”

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Correlated?

Dr. Stewart: Yeah. How do we correlate them and what’s missing in both.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. Alright.

Dr. Stewart: Am I making sense? So don’t get…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: No, you’re making sense. I guess I was just trying to get to the point, if you were suffering from one of these neuro-immune syndromes, you most likely have a bowel issue?

Dr. Stewart: No, not necessarily. I’d say it’s about 30 percent.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Really?

Dr. Stewart: Yeah.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: It’s not across the board.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Now with autism, it’s a little bit different, but we’re not talking about…

Dr. Stewart: No autism is 30 percent.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Really?

Dr. Stewart: Mmm-hmm.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Yeah some people say higher, but in my practice with my experience with several thousand of those patients, its right about 30 percent.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. I guess we’re going to get into that in second part of the show, too. I want to know what kind of testing you do so that we know that the bowel is hurting, because I’ve heard you say sometimes…

Dr. Stewart: Right.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Bowel irritation can be like a sunburn on your skin, that really hurts bad, but it’s inside your stomach and I’ve had that before.

Dr. Stewart: Well here’s what you think. Inflammation in the body in general releases specific chemicals, we call them interleukins or cytokines that change the way that cells perform and work and it makes people feel bad when they’re sick. Now the gut is no different than being sick or having an infection in other places.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: But the whole idea is that we have to understand that the body works as a whole mechanism and not just separately. Now I’m not trying to belittle these researchers in any stretch of the imagination. It’s just sometimes perspective, if you get lost in a specific perspective, you don’t really get the big picture.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Well and that’s why you’re so good at what you do because you look at the body as a whole.

Dr. Stewart: Well you have to because what’s happening is I have to do that because of my background.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So what I’m interested in is what do I need to put back into you or what do we need to replenish and that’s why genetics are so powerful because you know…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Alright.

Dr. Stewart: And once we put that back in…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: The proof in the pudding?

Dr. Stewart: Then we should get improvement in both the nervous system and the gut.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. Alright. We’re going to take a quick break and we’re going to talk about treatment and we’re going to talk about nutraceuticals that might help with some of the conditions that we talked about and we’ll be right back with Coffee with Dr. Stewart.

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Alright and we are back with part two of Coffee with Dr. Stewart episode three, season two. I am Kara. This is Kendal, Dr. Stewart, sorry Dr. Stewart.

Dr. Stewart: That’s okay.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: He’s my brother. I’m used to calling him Kendal.

Dr. Stewart: That’s alright I answer to anything. Hey.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Hey dude. Anyways, we are back talking about the gut, brain connection. Dr. Stewart gave us some very unique insight because, a lot of people, a lot of times, think of them in isolation that the brain works one way, the gut works one way, but doctor's kind of correlated it for us. That a lot of it has to do with, the immune system being healthy to support both and they have to be both in balance to work correctly. Right, Dr. Stewart?

Dr. Stewart: That’s the best way that I believe you can approach it.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: It makes total sense. I mean this literature that I was looking through before every show I look through everything, it’s very confusing because you have so many different concepts on it.

Dr. Stewart: You need to always remember that everybody who looks into these things, you know….

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Is specialized?

Dr. Stewart: They’re specialized, but they also look at it from their perspective. What I try…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. Like the psychologist look at the brain and then the gastroenterologist….

Dr. Stewart: What I try to do is take all that perspective out and just get back to the source. If we get back to the source, we’re going to find out that God doesn’t use one thing for one thing. He uses one thing for thousands of things…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. I’m going to get you a t-shirt that says that (laughing) because that’s a good saying.

Dr. Stewart: Well it’s just the way it is, you know? He’s efficient.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Well you talked about that you are an immune specialist. You talk about the immune system and how that keeps the nervous system, the gut, the brain, the bowel, everything healthy…

Dr. Stewart: Sure.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: We’re getting around the cold and flu season. So your gut, they say, is like your best friend during that time.

Dr. Stewart: Well, yeah. The answer is; obviously if you feed your body good food and less inflammatory food…I always talk about for people who have gut issues to consider a low inflammatory diet.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Now there’s all kinds of diets out there…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yes, there are.

Dr. Stewart: And in fact it’ll make you sick thinking about them, but basically what I typically tell people is that we want to focus on the foods that are the least inflammatory potential, meaning the highest quality, the most natural base. I call a low inflammatory typical diet is, of course, all the meats, fruits, and vegetables that agree with you and we want them raw or less processed…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Is that kind of the paleo diet?

Dr. Stewart: Yeah, kind of a paleo. I call it a paleo plus.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Typically in this situation, rice is probably the best grain…quinoa is actually a seed. I love quinoa.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: It’s actually a seed more than a grain, but certainly the…rice is probably the least inflammatory for most people.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Corn can be more inflammatory than most people think certainly…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah they had their tops, corn, soy is at the top…

Dr. Stewart: Gluten. Gluten is certainly a problem. The biggest problem with gluten is we also mix it with yeast and anytime we have an overdose of yeast, we’re going to get into some trouble.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay well then that leads me to my one question though. How do you know because gluten free it’s like oh you got to go gluten free to get rid of the bowel issues. That may be true, but how do you test to see if they have gluten sensitivity or intolerance…

Dr. Stewart: Well so there’s a few different things. There’s gluten sensitivity, there’s gluten intolerance and then there’s actually celiac disease. Now celiac, it turns out that we can actually test the markers that give us the genetic potential to develop an extreme response to gluten we know as celiac.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And what kind of test is that?

Dr. Stewart: That’s actually a specific genetic…a couple of different SNPs and we’d have to show it to you. It’s no sense in me just telling you about it. But if you look at a correlation for it, you can see it.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: If you have a mutation?

Dr. Stewart: Now the problem is, is if you have a lot of inflammation in your gut, all foods are foreign.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Okay? They’re not us. Okay? So the reason we seal our bowel so much and why they talk about the leaky gut is that if you create a lot of inflammation in the bowel and these proteins from the food leak in, essentially get exposed to the immune system, you will develop a sensitivity to that foreign food. And so certainly people with more inflammation of the bowel will develop more food sensitivities and those can come in two forms. One is an IgE which is an immediate response like I’ll pop a peanut in my mouth and my lips swell up and I can’t breathe, that’s an IgE response.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. That means a trip to the hospital.

Dr. Stewart: Yeah. The more common, though, is what we call IgG or delayed food sensitivity and that involves a response that’s usually two to twelve hours after you eat the food…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: That would be me after kiwi. My lips blow up the size of like a balloon.

Dr. Stewart: Oh that’s an IgE. But the IgG comes…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: It’s a wonderful Thanksgiving…

Dr. Stewart: The IgG comes two to twelve hours after you eat the food. So good luck. We eat such complex foods these days, you’re not going to be able to figure it out.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So you may already have lunch and then you may already have dinner and then all of a sudden you have something from lunch that has that delay and your stomach hurts?

Dr. Stewart: Correct.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And you think it may be from dinner?

Dr. Stewart: Correct. So the whole idea is, there are tests that actually check IgG that are pretty easy to take…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah you do the what, Alletess?

Dr. Stewart: I do the Alletess, you know, there’s all kinds. There’s ALCAT and all those, they’re all basically the same type of test. What they typically do is steer you in the right direction to the foods that are least inflammatory for you.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Okay? Now what I will tell you, you have to be a little cautious in reading those tests because sometimes you’ll find out that other things are involved, but basically if you can eat a fairly clean, low inflammatory diet, your gut’s going to be a happier thing. Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So what would you recommend for people that may be, you know, of course, your ten months out as usual and going and seeing their physician and getting that Alletess or some kind of food sensitivity test?

Dr. Stewart: Yeah the answer is, if you feel like you need it and you can tell that foods affect you and you want to know the details, you know they come in very specific forms like a zero, one, two, and three basically telling you how sensitive you are. Typically, a one response is a minor response. You can actually eat that occasionally and not get into trouble.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Twos and threes, you just don’t want to mess with those…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: A three definitely?

Dr. Stewart: Well you don’t want to mess with them. There’s actually people that can be allergic to almost everything now that means there’s an immune system problem.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: You’re not supposed to be allergic to…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah and you always tell me that some patients come in, you do the Alletess, you don’t do it right in the beginning anymore because they’d be allergic to everything.

Dr. Stewart: Actually I got tired of moms crying in the office.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: My baby can’t eat anything.

Dr. Stewart: What can I feed my baby and its created panic. So typically what I do in my office is I hold that for a good twelve weeks. I wind up methylating, I wind up working on the immune system, giving the system a little time to calm down the general inflammation.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: And then go in and look for the real allergens.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And maybe they’re only allergic to five or six things or…

Dr. Stewart: Well, you know, it just depends on the kid. Sometimes there’s 20, sometimes there’s two or three, sometimes it’s a lot less than you thought. Now, you got to remember that we are in an age of highly processed foods.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yes. Yes.

Dr. Stewart: And I always tell my patients that a good concept is to understand that our market, the way we do it for foods is we take quantity over quality. So if I’m a farmer for corn and I look out in the middle of my field and there’s a stalk that’s two feet taller and it’s growing twice as much corn, I grab that, I run to Texas A&M…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: That’s called steroids…

Dr. Stewart: Well no, I grab it, I run to Texas A&M and I say make me a whole field of this, right? Well the problem is what do we call cells that are growing twice as fast in the body?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: You got me.

Dr. Stewart: Cancer.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh okay.

Dr. Stewart: Okay? So even in hybridization, not even GMO’d but GMOs are basically looking at hybridized forms and finding out what the best traits are.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: You were looking at a bunch of cancerous type crops because they’re…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh wow. Because they’re modified?

Dr. Stewart: Based on quantity and if we look at…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Wow.

Dr. Stewart: Cancer cells and the quality of proteins and things in the cancer cells, it’s really not very high in nutritional value.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I mean when you look at cancer diets, I mean they have them on the basics, right?

Dr. Stewart: Correct.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I mean they’re very no sugars, no refined sugars…

Dr. Stewart: Well the answer is you don’t want the immune system to work too hard. You want it to pay attention to the cancer situation. So the long and the short of it for gut health, what you need is there are many people…there’s actually a mutation that’s become very well known, it’s called an FUT2.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh okay. The FUT2.

Dr. Stewart: Yeah and FUT2 basically is a fucosylation marker. Fucosyl sugars are special sugars that our bowel sends into the bowel or secretes into the bowel to attract good bacteria and we know many people are non-secreters or poor secreters.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh okay.

Dr. Stewart: And so basically I tell my patients if I don’t have any corn in my deer feeder, how many deer come?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: None.

Dr. Stewart: The answer is none. So in that situation…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: You are from Texas, that’s for sure. (Laughing)

Dr. Stewart: I am, yeah. So what will happen…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: My corn feeder. (Laughing)

Dr. Stewart: In my corn feeder. What’ll happen is that we have essentially a set up then for bad bacteria and dysbiosis to set up.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Do you understand?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: And so, a lot of people say well don’t eat any sugar and don’t feed the yeast and all that. You have to have sugars and carbohydrates. You just want to eat natural high quality sugars; you want to eat natural high quality carbohydrates. You’re not going to starve the yeast away.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I gotcha.

Dr. Stewart: It just doesn’t work. Even though they’re talking about refined sugar and processed foods and all those things…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: But you have to have some type of natural sugar?

Dr. Stewart: But if you eat what grandma ate out of her garden, you are going to be fine.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. And the obesity rate was a lot lower back then which is interesting too, diabetes, all that…

Dr. Stewart: If you eat…so we went to our grandmother’s house and whatever…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Out of the garden…

Dr. Stewart: Was growing in the garden that night…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: It was delicious…

Dr. Stewart: Of course, she also chicken fried venison and steak and some gravy and some biscuits, but…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: The whole idea is if you eat what grandma ate out of the garden and you go to whole foods or any of the good grocery stores these days and you buy quality produce…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Grass fed?

Dr. Stewart: You’re going to be better off.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. Well then let’s get to the protocols. So you’ve got the test, the blood work, you maybe know what you’re allergic to or you have an inflammatory response to. We get the calls all the time, I have a budget if I had to start something, what would Dr. Stewart recommend? A probiotic, the Immune Restore for the beta-glucans, I mean where would they start if they know they have some bowel irritation…

Dr. Stewart: Well you always have to start with a probiotic because beta-glucans…

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And why?

Dr. Stewart: Well beta-glucans are made by good bacteria.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So beta-glucans are special sugars that help the immune system calm down and work right.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: The beta-glucans aren’t a probiotic?

Dr. Stewart: No, but they are a sugar. Beta-glucan, means glucose like.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So basically there are beta-glucose like molecules.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So you’re talking about the ingredient, the main ingredients in the immune restore…

Dr. Stewart: So what happened is the biggest problem we have is I put a probiotic in and I grow some good bacteria, then I go down to the local restaurant and I drink chlorinated water.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Ah. You’ve talked about that, yeah.

Dr. Stewart: Okay? So I just killed all my probiotics, my good bacteria and I’ve got a problem. So what happened is in people who needed a lot of help is I couldn’t get good bacteria to grow in their gut very well and we now know there are genetic foundations for that and we had to use the beta-glucans in higher doses to try to get the immune system to calm down.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So just put the sugars in. Now what I’m going to tell you though is it’s always best to have a good probiotic foundation.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah and what do you consider a good probiotic? I mean it’s everywhere, multiple strains, you know…

Dr. Stewart: Just remember that people are always out to take your money.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: Okay? So when they start telling you that theirs is way better and what you really want is a broad spectrum of lots of high quality probiotics and remember bacteria divide very rapidly. So if you put in two billion, 15 minutes later, it’s four billion. Fifteen minutes after that, it’s eight billion; 15 minutes after that, it’s sixteen billion. Do you understand the concept?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. I mean they recommend around ten billion which is what we have.

Dr. Stewart: Well the answer is that the only reason that we do that is because that’s a good number, but I’m telling you the number doesn’t matter as much as what’s in it.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. The strains?

Dr. Stewart: Now always remember that a large variety of strains. Look at nature. If I go out and I scoop up some soil, I’m going to find fifty bacteria that are different in that soil.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So in the gut, we’re supposed to have a lot of different good bacteria, not just one.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. So look for multiple strains.

Dr. Stewart: Correct.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. And then real quick on enzymes.

Dr. Stewart: So enzymes are really funny because they relate to methylation, they relate to tearing things down. We’re learning that there are genetics involved. It’s always easier to process foods that are broken down more.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So if your body has trouble breaking down foods and the gut transit is too fast because of the irritation, you want to use enzymes to not only break the food down into easier manageable pieces, but you’re also wanting to provide the gut with a more manageable ability to absorb.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay so the enzymes break it down without so much work for the gut?

Dr. Stewart: Correct.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay. Alright. Well gosh, we didn’t get to everything again. I can’t stand that…

Dr. Stewart: Always happens.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: But that’s okay. That means more stuff for the next shows. We look forward to seeing next week everybody. We thank you for joining us on this gorgeous Sunday, it’s finally cooler here in Austin, Texas, and we are out on Coffee with Dr. Stewart. Have a blessed and beautiful Sunday.

Dr. Stewart: Buh-bye.

Speaker: This show is intended for general information and entertainment purposes only. Dr. Stewart serves as the chief science officer and lead formulator for Neurobiologix and advises you to consult with your own medical professional on any information given during this programming. This information is not intended to diagnose, treat, or cure any disease or medical condition.