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Autism and Processing Disorders: Causes, Treatment and Development in Prescreening Your Child Prior to Vaccine

Coffee with Dr. Stewart: Episode 11

Date: 11-24-2014

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Welcome to Coffee with Dr. Stewart. This show will provide our listeners with up to date medical information from a leading neurotologist and neuro-immune specialist. With Dr. Stewartís broad medical knowledge, we will discuss how he helps his patients with issues such as ADD, migraines, hormones, dizziness, sleep, fatigue, methylation, autism, and genetic mutations. I am your host Kara Stewart-Mullens and I invite you to sit back, grab your cup of coffee or favorite beverage and letís have Coffee with Dr. Stewart.

Well good afternoon everybody and welcome to Coffee with Dr. Stewart. I just like saying that name. Anyways, I am your host Kara Stewart-Mullens and we are here on Episode 11. Hi Dr. Stewart, how are you?

Dr. Stewart: Iím doing great, Kara. Thank you.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: We always giggle, brother and sister, we just look at each other and start laughing.

Dr. Stewart: Thatís pretty much the way it should be.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. It should be fun. Well we talked last week on Episode 10 about viruses and cancers, a very interesting topic so if you have time to go listen, visit This week weíre going to talk about another big field of Dr. Stewartís. We will talk about autism and sensory processing disorders which kind of go hand in hand. Dr. Stewart is going to explain that, but Dr. Stewart really was not an autism doctor. I donít think any doctor, maybe five years ago, ten years ago, fifteen years ago, was ever an autism specialist because autism was not taught in medical school. I donít even know if it is now. Is it, Dr. Stewart?

Dr. Stewart: Not in medical school.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: No? Not to the extent that you know it now.

Dr. Stewart: No, not even close.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Dr. Stewart is an ear, nose, and throat skull-based surgeon. Then you started seeing patients with neuro-immune syndromes that we always talk about, patients that were parents that had migraines or vertigo or fibro myalgia and then their child was having issues and theyíd ask you to see their child.

Dr. Stewart: Correct.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Right?

Dr. Stewart: Mmm-hmm.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Then it turned out that their child had autism. Wasnít a huge word back then but nowadays itís very spoken about. This is from the CDC, the estimation of 1 in 68 children have autism.

Dr. Stewart: Yeah. Itís 1 in 20 boys.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: One in 20 boys. Yeah. They said 1 in 42, but their numbers are always a lot different than what the actual statistics are.

Dr. Stewart: Well those are the latest numbers that came out.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Really? One in 20 boys. They talk about boys getting it more than girls. Why is that?

Dr. Stewart: Iím going to give you my opinion on that. Basically, autism is not a diagnosis. Autism is the symptom. Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So what I tell my parents that see me for children with developmental abnormalities, whether they label it as ADD, ADHD, autism, whatever you want to call it, itís like having a headache. You can treat your headache, but what you really want to know is whatís causing your headaches all the time.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: So with autism, autism is just the symptom that you tell the doctor about and he tries to treat the symptom. What really is going on underneath in the child who has these symptoms of autism is that their sensory systems or the systems that feed their brain information are not really jiving or connecting or talking to each other.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Integrating?

Dr. Stewart: Integrating.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: What we call sensory integration.

Dr. Stewart: So a lot of people call it sensory integration, a lot of people call it sensory processing. All of those terms tend to be correct because what youíre really dealing with is a problem where the nervous system structures have either been interrupted in their development or damaged and I can prove that because we measure them.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: We have the sensory view system.

Dr. Stewart: Then the way those systems talk to each other is using dopamine and when you get a methylation problem which almost 98% of these kids have, you canít produce dopamine or serotonin very well; hence, you get anxiety, you get processing problems, etc. So it really comes back to a biochemical abnormality that puts these kids at greater risk. Now what I show parents is basically a slide that they all know very well and itís a vortex slide.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Like a funnel?

Dr. Stewart: Like a funnel and what I put at the top is pre-disposing genetics. So we talk about MTHFR, we talk about COMT, we talk about problems withÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: The mutations?

Dr. Stewart: Folic acid receptors and basically I have those too and so do you. So those donít cause the problem. If we get a triggering event, something that actually causes a large amount of inflammation or damage to the nervous system, I happen to believe that vaccines can do that in certain situations, certainly the live vaccines; thatís not the only cause of it. Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: We can certainly have trauma. We can have surgery that triggers it. We can have infections of all types of nature, so Iíve seen all of those things cause damage to the nervous system.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I mean they even say sometimes the birthing canal or having issues in the birth, is that even a possibility?

Dr. Stewart: I really want to clear that up because those were questions we asked early on when I got into this arena. See the reason I got into this arena is because these kids are off balance, you understand?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Well yeah.

Dr. Stewart: So I was a balance doctor, so guess why I got asked to see the kids? Because I was a balance doctor.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So what we wanted to do is I really wanted to know what the heck sensory integration meant and so I started using PHDs from the University of Texas and we were doing some post-doctorate studies and trying to ask ourselves something very simple. The worse the severity of the autism or the spectrum disorder, how was the brain getting delivered information and it turned out the more dis-appropriate the information was, the more screwed up it was, basically the worse these symptoms were. Do you understand?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: You also talk about when the insult happened at their age.

Dr. Stewart: Right. When you talk about that, you have to understand that a baby typically has touch and feel the day itís born. Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: The visual system where you see and track really doesnít start until about three months of age. That doesnít mean the baby doesnít see light and stuff, but it will start tracking with you at three months of age.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Then at eight to nine months, the baby will usually start sitting up and doing all those things and thatís when the inner ear starts to kick inÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So they can walk?

Dr. Stewart: And give you information of where your center of reference is.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Then between 12 and 18 months, we have the inner ear and the eyes integrating, so that you can keep your eyes still when youíre moving. Then typically between 18 and 24 months, we have the inner ear and the muscles integrate so you can stand up and move quickly. Little 12 month old babies donít run super fast.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: No.

Dr. Stewart: Okay? So the whole idea is what was really important and impressive to us as we looked at all this development and measuring it, is that the timing event eruption defined the severity of the problem which makes sense.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So basically youíre saying that whatever the traumatic event was, based upon where they were in the development stage, they would be stuck.

Dr. Stewart: It stalled it. They stalled it.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: They stalled it.

Dr. Stewart: Now they didnít stall the brain development. The brain turns out to be perfect in these kids.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Its just the information.

Dr. Stewart: Okay? Unless you got seizures or other things, thatís obviously not an issue or if they had a brain injury, thatís a different animal, thatís cerebral palsy and stuff like that. If you stop the interruption of the developmental timeline, you get an immaturity to the child.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Their brain might keep developing and theyíre thinking better, but thereís still somethingÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: You got a really big kid that has autism that maybe youíre already eight years old, but they never got past the verbal stage?

Dr. Stewart: Correct. So theyíre at twoÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So theyíre not verbal.

Dr. Stewart: Now they can have eight-year-old thoughts, understandÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: But they canít get them out.

Dr. Stewart: But they still see the world as two.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh wow.

Dr. Stewart: Do you understand?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: I tell people itís really an interruption in maturity as opposed to an interruption.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Itís so frustrating out there because you have seen thousands, I mean, ladies and gentlemen, Iím telling you, heís seen over 10,000 autistic kids?

Dr. Stewart: No, probably not that many, but somewhere around 6 or 7.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Thousand?

Dr. Stewart: Yeah.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I worked in your clinic for three years and I saw miracles happen, kids that hadnít spoken finally speakingÖ

Dr. Stewart: Weíre not working on autism.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah and you donít really use that word in your clinic, you donít like to.

Dr. Stewart: No, because itís an opinion.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Itís scary.

Dr. Stewart: Itís an opinion.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: I mean if you take your child to five different doctors, depending on the day they walk in there and these kids have good days and bad days which is the hallmark of the problem. See if I have a brain injury or Iíve damaged the brain, letís say I have a stroke and I canít move my arm, howís my arm the next day?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: The same.

Dr. Stewart: The same. Well that means that if Iíve really damaged the brain, it should be the same all the time.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: But what you see in these autistic kids is they have good days and bad daysÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh yeah.

Dr. Stewart: What that means is youíre changing the information being delivered to the brain.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And itís depending on whatís going on in the childís life or what they were fed that day?

Dr. Stewart: Thatís correct. So all those thingsÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Weíll get into that too.

Dr. Stewart: So the whole idea is we knew most of the time when we were talking about the brain, weíre looking in the wrong place. We needed to look at the software.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: You know what kind of scares me is that the autism spectrum that they talk about and they put ADD and ADHD in that.

Dr. Stewart: Sure.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And they put sensory processing, that scares parents because just because you have an ADD child doesnít mean that they have full blown autism. Explain that.

Dr. Stewart: No and so I donít really like that spectrum. What that means is the primary relationship of the foundation of the problem is very similar, but itís completely different in a high functioning ADD child is certainly different from an autisticÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Itís not autistic?

Dr. Stewart: Child, so I donít like whenÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. They put dyslexia in there, they put dysgraphiaÖ

Dr. Stewart: Sure. All those are essentially the sensory system is not integrating and functioning well together.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So these are just, again, the symptoms?

Dr. Stewart: Correct.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Because thatís what I like about your clinic is you donít use that word, autism.

Dr. Stewart: Right. So what weíve found out is the most complex sensory system that feeds the brain is the inner ear. It essentially has to compare one ear to the other ear. We measure it and compare them 1,000 times a second at a minimum to find the center of our head. So I tell people we got an ear on each side of our head and if theyíre equal, we compare them and we find the middle of our head 1,000 times a second. Now we use that information to keep our eyes still when weíre moving. Now hereís the problem. The reason I think thereís five times more boys than girls is because of the way that our brain is built. Boys are visual, girls are auditory, you guys love to talk.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: No!

Dr. Stewart: Yep.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: (laughing) Yes, we do.

Dr. Stewart: You can see who talks the most on this show (laughing).

Kara Stewart-Mullens: (laughing)

Dr. Stewart: See little girls can start talking at 12 to 14 months of age.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Little boys canít. Weíre so visually dominant, thatís our brain, that we have to get that inner ear and that eye working together in an integrated fashion or we canít seem to process and control information as well.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So why would boys get it more?

Dr. Stewart: Because typically when we deal with autism and non-verbal process, especially non-verbal autistics, we get an interruption before 18 months of age.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Ah. That was my next question. What is the typical age thatÖ

Dr. Stewart: So it confused me for a long time as to why there were five times more boys than girls. Well it really has to do with the development of a male brain versus a female brain.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: It kind of goes back to that whistle blower. I donít know if everybodyís heard on the news, that the gentleman that worked for the CDC that had a study that African American boysÖ

Dr. Stewart: Let me clear that up for you.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So basically if you talk to a lot of pediatricians, they will quote a lot of studies that are done to show that MMR and autism are not related, one of those studies was done in 2004. Now Iím going to tell you that, as a general rule, African Americans do not tend to get autism as much as Anglo people.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So what they did is they went to inner city Atlanta which is predominately African American and they did this study.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: To look at MMR and autism risk. Well what happened is apparently the gentleman who was the lead author in that study was going to have to report that there was a correlation between MMR and autismÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Autism?

Dr. Stewart: Rates in some of these African American individuals. Well he sent a letter to his director and he became a whistle blower about two and a half to three months ago.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So he hid that complete story about theÖ

Dr. Stewart: Well, no, the CDC did as an organization.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Not him hiding it, he reported it to his director.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: But they did not release it?

Dr. Stewart: What they did is they modified the data and they cooked the data and he became a whistle blower and what really makes me mad is itís still being suppressed andÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. Theyíre saying; ďOh thatís not true, heís lying, this and that.Ē

Dr. Stewart: Yeah. Thatís right which is so classic government stuff. If you canít even trustÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I think the guilt got to him and he finally just had to come clean.

Dr. Stewart: Thatís really the way I feel. I really get mad. Corruption in government is no different than corruption anywhere else.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: But what does bother me is that when it involves money which is what vaccines are about, and theyíre taking our children and putting them at risk, that makes me very angry.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. And what is the number of vaccines before three years of age now?

Dr. Stewart: Typically itís about 43 vaccinesÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Wow. Thatís a lot. Well, weíre going to have to take a quick break.

Dr. Stewart: Before five.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Before five. Okay. Thatís a lot still. Alright, weíre going to take a quick break and weíll be right back with Coffee with Dr. Stewart.

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Kara Stewart-Mullens: Alright and welcome back to Episode 11 of Coffee with Dr. Stewart. Iím here with the Dr. Kendal Stewart and weíre talking about autism and sensory processing disorders. Weíre on a big discussion before we went to break about vaccinations. Itís a huge question and itís just very confusing to a lot of people and a lot of parents are terrified now because theyíre worried that if they vaccinate their child, their child is going to get autism. So, Dr. Stewart, we talked right before break that 43 vaccines are now given before the age of five.

Dr. Stewart: Well thatís whatís recommended. Now I want to clarify some things just to make sure everybody understands my stance on this. Seventy percent or so of the parents who come to see me with an autistic child, especially severe autism, believe that their child changed following a vaccination. Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Typically a live one?

Dr. Stewart: Typically MMR but Iíve also heard it from DPT and sometimes varicella. Now I am not anti-vaccine. Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Iím going to go on record and tell you that.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh I know that. You told me to get my son polio because he goes to Mexico.

Dr. Stewart: Right. Well and itís not just that, but what I am mad about is letís say, Kara, I decided that I was going to give you a thyroid prescription and I never measured your thyroid.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Not good.

Dr. Stewart: How many doctors would stand up and say thatís malpractice?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: A lot.

Dr. Stewart: Almost all. Right?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: Because itíd just be on symptoms. Well what I am mad about is the fact that when I check all these autistic childrenís immune systems, about 70 to 75 percent of them have abnormal T-cells.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So what I am actuallyÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Thatís the killer cells, it keeps us healthy?

Dr. Stewart: Well theyíre the killer cells, but theyíre also the cells that vaccines utilize to make the vaccine work.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Oh.

Dr. Stewart: So what Iím really upset about is why do we not, for people who have insurance, why do we not check the immune status prior to giving a vaccine? Because vaccines wonít even work if the T-cells arenít right. And if theyíre live viruses that canít be controlled by abnormal T-cells, they can do damage.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: So Iím really mad that pediatricians want to stick their head in the sandÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Without checking?

Dr. Stewart: Without checking. So all Iím saying is we donít give vaccines to AIDS patients.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: No. Goodness.

Dr. Stewart: First of all, they donít work and they can make them sick. Well those are the same type of problems we see. So I think we could solve a lot of problems because this is the day and the age of science and medicine.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yes.

Dr. Stewart: Proof. So whatís so complicated about checking the T-cell status prior to initiating vaccines in a child?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So I know you see tiny babies, like infants, and their parents are concerned, Dr. Stewart has a nine month, maybe more now, waiting list, so this is not to go in and see him, but if an infant child comes to you with their parents, you check their T-cells before you recommend a vaccination schedule?

Dr. Stewart: Sure. What they do is ask; ďhow should I vaccinate the child?Ē My answer is I donít know because until we know the status of the immune system, we have no idea whether the vaccine will work. You certainly donít want to do a therapeutic that wonít work.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: What you have to do is measure markersÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: In blood.

Dr. Stewart: You got to check the health of the immune cells and most parents are perfectly fine with that. Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Itís just taking a little blood from the baby?

Dr. Stewart: Right. Now if the immune cells are perfectly normal, I think you can go after whatever vaccination schedule makes you feel comfortable, okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Now I will also tell my patients though that, first of all, I do not believe in the varicella vaccine.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Now thatís the herpes vaccine, correct?

Dr. Stewart: Well itís the chicken pox vaccine.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: They have pox parties. So whatís the point of getting a vaccine?

Dr. Stewart: Well the answer is the point of it is trying to lessen the amount of absences from school, from what I understand.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: First of all, many people can tell you it doesnít work very effectively. Itís the same with the shingles vaccine.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: And most of the elderly are getting it. I will tell you that, although I am not opposed to MMR, I wish the timing would be a little different. I think we should delay the MMR vaccine, more like on the European schedule to at least two years of age or further, instead of giving it at one year of age.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Do you know the statistics, Europe versus U.S in autism?

Dr. Stewart: I donít specifically know that. I have seen it before.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I know that itís not as bad.

Dr. Stewart: People can talk about it and argue about it, I just donít understand the reasoning behind the vaccine schedule. Now Iím sure there is some. It just doesnít make a lot of sense from an immunological standpoint. Obviously a baby of two years of age has a healthier immune system than a one-year-old.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Well we all know that itís going to change. I mean itís going to have to because the governmentís already paid out quite a few claims to vaccine injury and autism.

Dr. Stewart: Well thatís what doesnít make sense to me, too.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Theyíre paying out, but theyíre not admitting guilt.

Dr. Stewart: Well the whole idea is since when does the government just get to decide who gets injured and who doesnít?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Well up in the east coast, in Boston, youíll get your child taken away if you donít vaccinate.

Dr. Stewart: Thatís correct and so thatísÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Thatís crazy to me. Itís my choice.

Dr. Stewart: Sure. Well this is Texas and, you know, weíre very pro-choiceÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah (laughing). I want to carry my gun and not vaccinate my childÖ

Dr. Stewart: And I donít mean pro-choiceÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Until heís older.

Dr. Stewart: I donít mean pro-choice in the way most people think about it.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: But we like peopleís personal rights to decide what to do.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. So okay, a patient comes to you, you check their immune status.

Dr. Stewart: Mmm-hmm.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Then you go from there.

Dr. Stewart: I also check a homocysteine to make sure the mitochondria tend to be healthy. I check the status of the folic acid in the system.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And you do recommend, typically for people that canít even get to see you, at least give them until two years of age for the immune system to develop. Is that correct?

Dr. Stewart: Typically. Iím not so worried about the non-live vaccines, the DPTs, those types of vaccines because theyíre just what I call pieces and parts.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Now I can tell you if meningococcal meningitis breaks out in your community, everybody needs to haul their booty down and get a vaccine for that.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Really?

Dr. Stewart: Because you do not want to go through meningitis, that is highlyÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Infectious?

Dr. Stewart: Highly infectious, you just donít want to go through that.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So that is a pieces and parts. It means that thereís no potential for live infection.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Well kind of like you said with the polio, thatís damaging, and thereís no cure for it.

Dr. Stewart: Right.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So itís kind of one that might be okay to give?

Dr. Stewart: Yeah. I would just do it with prudence. I wouldnít want to pump a one-year-old baby full of a bunch of sickness.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: Because what youíre doing when you give multiple vaccines, is youíre challenging the immune system from multiple agents and it just simply overwhelms the child.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah and, ladies and gentlemen out there, you know, pediatricians, thereís some out there that have opened their minds to this. I mean thereís a lot of people that are attending your course in February that are pediatricians. They know that methylation is a key to it and thereís so many mutations and methylation issues out there.

Dr. Stewart: Right. Well thereís some famous pediatricians on the pro-vaccine side and thereís one guy from Penn University that said a baby could get a million vaccines at once. I vehemently disagree with that.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I think I have to.

Dr. Stewart: That guy really doesnít know what heís talking about saying that. That is the most asinine thing Iíve ever heard. What Iím going to tell you is we clearly know that the more agents you stimulate the immune system with, the more aggressive the immunological response is. So giving one specific vaccine, even a multivalent which means that we have several agents in it at a time is probably the way to do it. You donít want to play catch up. You never want to say oh your baby missed the last appointment, letís just give him three today.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Wow.

Dr. Stewart: Do you understand?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: So you just donít want to take that chance with any child because youíre just going to make them feel bad.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: With that said, I know a lot of people here. Iíve seen a ton of doctors who have an autistic child, it takes a team, right? You always say it takes a team. Where does it start? Once you get the autism diagnosis, guide us through your protocol or what you need to start doing for testing, treatment and methylation support andÖ

Dr. Stewart: Well methylation deficiencies in children with spectrum abnormalities of all types approach 98%.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Wow.

Dr. Stewart: Okay. Iíll just say 100, but Iíve seen a few that were kind of questionable from the markers. The long and the short of it is methylation plays a huge role, not only because it supports the immune system, supports recovery of the nervous system because you have to have the proper forms of folic acid and B12. It also helps dopamine and serotonin functionality and reproduction in the system and soÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Well and we also know that autistic kids donít eat well because theyíre very picky and texture sensitive, so theyíre not getting it from food. So theyíve got to get it from somewhere.

Dr. Stewart: The problem is you can get all the folic acid you want from foodÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Itís got to be in the right form.

Dr. Stewart: But with a methylation issue, you canít convert it.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Iím just talking about food in general. We have parents that come in that buy all the multi-vitamins so theyíre methylating the child as wellÖ.

Dr. Stewart: Sure.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And the super greens products and just trying to get some nutrition into the child because that can make a big world of difference. Letís talk about diet, getting glutenÖ

Dr. Stewart: What youíre doing in children who have this immune modification of methylation abnormalities is youíre trying to control sources of inflammation.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: So I explain it to people by basically drawing them a diagram of boxes that we stack on top of each other and if we reach a certain threshold of too much inflammation, we have a child who becomes symptomatic. So we canít control stress of life. We canít control unexpected things. We canít control unavoidable things like getting sick, but we can control the other four which really has to do with hormonal status, okay? Meaning that we have to have good thyroid, as we get into older children, we need to have proper steroid production, etc. We can control food sensitivities, what we eat and most people donít realize that itís not an IGE reaction to foods like you pop a peanut in your mouth and your face starts swelling.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah itís just a mildÖ

Dr. Stewart: But itís what we call a delayed food sensitivity which means the reaction occurs in the GI tract two to twelve hours after you eat a food.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: So you have a test that tests for 95 foods?

Dr. Stewart: Correct. And most doctorsÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Itís just one bottle of blood.

Dr. Stewart: Have that and that will tell you what youíre doing. Now the big five for foods to typically avoid is gluten, dairy of cowsí milk originÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: Soy, eggs, and yeast, okay, and then nuts are not too far behind that.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: I mean I have parents swear to me that they took gluten out of the diet and the things that youíre talking about and the child is completely different and I believe them.

Dr. Stewart: Right. Because you took inflammation out of the body.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. I totally believe once you started methylating the child, the child started walking and talkingÖ

Dr. Stewart: And what you also did is what most people donít understand is both casein which is cowís milk and gluten which is the binding protein from wheat and other grains, they get converted to an opiate in the bowel. Okay?

Kara Stewart-Mullens: AhhÖ

Dr. Stewart: So we have gluteomorphin and casomorphin and these are things you can look up on Wikipedia. They are opiates and so they can actually drug you. Iíll tell a funny story about my daughter, Courtney.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: (laughing) Iíve heard this.

Dr. Stewart: Yeah. Courtney loved white bread so we would find her in the kitchen and her favorite snack was a slice of white bread. So finally we said well we got to get rid of this so we took her off of gluten because she was breaking out with little rashes and stuff. For six weeks she was gluten free and then we took my oldest son, Nick, to soccer practice one day and we stopped into a little restaurant to eat. It was a little fancier than we expected so the only thing on the menu for Courtney was a hamburger. So of course daddy that I am, Iím like okay baby, you can have a hamburger. Well my daughter is a very shy girl and she ate her hamburger and the next thing I know, sheís standing up in the aisle with a napkin on her head dancing going look at me daddy, look at me. But it took us getting her off the glutenÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: And clearing her system to show us what gluten could do to her from a drug effect. It was very eye-opening.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Well thatís what I hear a lot. I mean a lot of parents just even like supplementation. You know, they say; ďIím not sure if itís working or not.Ē Iím like just stop it for a couple of days and then theyíre like; ďOh my gosh, I wish I had never stoppedÖĒ

Dr. Stewart: Right.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Because then you got to start back over because the inflammation has risen andÖ

Dr. Stewart: Right. So I mean really the hallmark of this is put back into the child whatís missing.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah.

Dr. Stewart: Get rid of inflammation to the best of your ability. The third box is actually chronic infections. So you can have Epstein Barr, yeast, etc. The fourth box is actually inhaled allergens, okay? So you got to watch out for what your environment is. Many kids need to be tested. Some kids need to be on allergy desensitization. But the long and the short of itÖ

Kara Stewart-Mullens: And therapy is a big piece of it too, right?

Dr. Stewart: Well but thatís what this is about getting rid of inflammation.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Okay.

Dr. Stewart: Now once you get the dopamine status back in the child and you get the recovery done, you have to have a way to break the bad habits and create the new habits.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Ahh.

Dr. Stewart: Thatís what therapy is. I cannot fix these children without therapy.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. I know you work closely with a lot of therapists.

Dr. Stewart: What my job is, is to give the therapist the very best patient to have the best outcome.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. I always found it interesting. Sometimes you get a new patient and theyíre like oh yeah theyíre on five days a week speech and vision therapy and youíre like stop everything until the child is ready because theyíre just not going to remember it.

Dr. Stewart: Correct.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Right?

Dr. Stewart: Yeah. So the whole idea is just making it stick.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Making it stick? Wow. I hope that a lot of people donít have to deal with autism because itís just awful. I pray for all those out there that do have a child with autism. We hope that this show helped a little bit on maybe how you can get started if youíre a new parent with a child on the spectrum or youíre someone just looking for something different to help your child. Dr. Stewart is an amazing physician, but like I said again, youíre full, Dr. Stewart, really full.

Dr. Stewart: Unfortunately thatís true.

Kara Stewart-Mullens: Yeah. So go to if you want to listen to this episode again or give us a call at Neurobiologix and weíll be happy to guide you to some autism specific products that Dr. Stewart created for our line. But, again, hope you have a blessed Sunday.

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